What hosting is the best?

[GaVrA]

So i'v been doing little research, and found 2 pretty good host company's. So i would like(especialy Iris) to tell me what hosting are you using and are you happy with it. :lol: I need something cheap for the next several months, and then i would need some dedicated server.

[Gorbo]

I say Godaddy by FAR!

But if you are seriously in need of something really cheap I could help you out.

Possibly for free depending on your needs :lol:

[Iris]

oh ok thank you for confidence in me :lol:

 

In hosting, you need to check what kind of servers the hoster has, thus the stats, cpu ram hdd and even DC sometimes.

If you have the ability to discuss with hoster , via mail or live support ask on which server you will be placed, ask for some sites that are on that server you will be placed on, to see how fast they are for example in loading.

 

Dont be fooled by stats, a hoster can say i have dual xeon with 2 giga ram. Then the question is how many sites there will be on that server, if it is overcrowded with too many sites , then even if it is a dual server it will be slow. From my point of view the hoster made a mistake as well by not adding another 2 giga of ram which solves many many problems. Gives the server bigger lungs so to speak.

 

an example

 

Pinging www.invisionbyte.net [64.22.96.44]:

 

Ping #1: Got reply from 64.22.96.44 in 20ms [TTL=58]

Ping #2: Got reply from 64.22.96.44 in 23ms [TTL=58]

Ping #3: Got reply from 64.22.96.44 in 23ms [TTL=58]

Ping #4: Got reply from 64.22.96.44 in 22ms [TTL=58]

 

 

Variation: 2.9ms (+/- 12%)

 

Shortest Time: 20ms

Average: 22ms

Longest Time: 23ms

 

Done pinging www.invisionbyte.net!

 

when i do reverse IP, i find that InvisionByte shares the server with 125 other websites.

 

64.22.96.44 has address 64.22.96.44

Found 126 websites with the IP 64.22.96.44

 

1) 1st2review.com

2) 3boutdoors.net" gping="&POS=97&CM=WPU&CE=75&CS=AWP&SR=75&sample=0

3) DBLACK7.COM" gping="&POS=82&CM=WPU&CE=60&CS=AWP&SR=60&sample=0

4) DIESELPUSHERBC.COM" gping="&POS=109&CM=WPU&CE=87&CS=AWP&SR=87&sample=0

5) DWIGHCO.COM" gping="&POS=84&CM=WPU&CE=62&CS=AWP&SR=62&sample=0

6) LAKEOFFICE.COM" gping="&POS=87&CM=WPU&CE=65&CS=AWP&SR=65&sample=0

7) MONTAGULAW.COM" gping="&POS=117&CM=WPU&CE=95&CS=AWP&SR=95&sample=0

8) MONTAGULAW.COM" gping="&POS=30&CM=WPU&CE=8&CS=AWP&SR=8&sample=0

9) RIZKERSON.COM" gping="&POS=58&CM=WPU&CE=36&CS=AWP&SR=36&sample=0

10) STORCHCONSULTING.COM" gping="&POS=69&CM=WPU&CE=47&CS=AWP&SR=47&sample=0

11) TEDISPRO.COM" gping="&POS=65&CM=WPU&CE=43&CS=AWP&SR=43&sample=0

12) aggieresistance.com

13) aide-en-chaine.com

14) aideenchaine.org" gping="&POS=93&CM=WPU&CE=71&CS=AWP&SR=71&sample=0

15) aikido.capeone.net

16) anythingprinted.net

17) aprclan.com

18) awwed.com

19) babyscrapbooking.net

20) blog.thetrenchcoat.com

21) board.thetrenchcoat.com

22) btdkp.stackndie.com

23) byelin.com

24) cabinetsfactory.com

25) calltothesoul.org

26) carocat.net" gping="&POS=111&CM=WPU&CE=89&CS=AWP&SR=89&sample=0

27) cliptard.com" gping="&POS=67&CM=WPU&CE=45&CS=AWP&SR=45&sample=0

28) communityinteriors.com

29) contractwithohio.com

30) craigscrimelist.org

31) crime-information.com

32) dblack7.com

33) derandrew09.com

34) dieselpusher.com

35) dinowalrus.com

36) dixiemusclecars.com

37) dogbreedersbook.com

38) dramaineducationblog.com

39) emlectures.com" gping="&POS=72&CM=WPU&CE=50&CS=AWP&SR=50&sample=0

40) emmanuelclg.org

41) emotivesoftware.com

42) eternepc.com" gping="&POS=110&CM=WPU&CE=88&CS=AWP&SR=88&sample=0

43) events-schedules.com

44) faithatwork.com

45) first-rx.com" gping="&POS=60&CM=WPU&CE=38&CS=AWP&SR=38&sample=0

46) forums.stackndie.com

47) genmicro.com

48) gordonandjoyce.net" gping="&POS=92&CM=WPU&CE=70&CS=AWP&SR=70&sample=0

49) greybeardsongs.com" gping="&POS=36&CM=WPU&CE=14&CS=AWP&SR=14&sample=0

50) guildofdeath.com" gping="&POS=107&CM=WPU&CE=85&CS=AWP&SR=85&sample=0

51) herbal-penis-enlargement-pills.net

52) herwannanpesapallo.net

53) holisticpathstowisdom.co.uk

54) home.newadvent.com

55) internet-isp-provider.info

56) jeffanderle.com

57) joffreysrestaurant.com

58) juggernuts.com

59) kalafut.org" gping="&POS=113&CM=WPU&CE=91&CS=AWP&SR=91&sample=0

60) knight.org

61) ktbeeson.com

62) labpressco.com" gping="&POS=108&CM=WPU&CE=86&CS=AWP&SR=86&sample=0

63) lagirlsny.com" gping="&POS=95&CM=WPU&CE=73&CS=AWP&SR=73&sample=0

64) literatisocialclub.org

65) lns-staging.com" gping="&POS=27&CM=WPU&CE=5&CS=AWP&SR=5&sample=0

66) lola-forum.org

67) loveforbiz.com

68) lyrics-central.com

69) maccurtis.com

70) meshplex.org

71) mexicanvacations.capeone.net

72) middlefingergod.com

73) modernmommas.com

74) molly.kalafut.org

75) mtbot.com

76) namaste.org

77) nautic.co.nz

78) netballfun.com

79) neverbecomplete.com

80) newadvent.com

81) newadvent.net

82) newsofdoom.com

83) nineslashes.com

84) noalcinturo.org

85) onlymormon.com

86) orienteeringns.ca

87) paloscreativos.com

88) paloscreativos.com" gping="&POS=107&CM=WPU&CE=85&CS=AWP&SR=85&sample=0

89) pathtalk.org

90) payloan.org

91) peneguy.org" gping="&POS=86&CM=WPU&CE=64&CS=AWP&SR=64&sample=0

92) penis-enlargement-resource.net

93) perfectbackups.info

94) pharma-less.com

95) phentermine-weight-loss.com

96) prefabdweller.com

97) prepfile.com

98) resourcemoz.com

99) rockycovington.com

100) rudetits.com" gping="&POS=96&CM=WPU&CE=74&CS=AWP&SR=74&sample=0

101) secondcomic.com

102) snapcrepes.com

103) snikiddies.net" gping="&POS=94&CM=WPU&CE=72&CS=AWP&SR=72&sample=0

104) snikiddy.com

105) spencerolsen.com" gping="&POS=79&CM=WPU&CE=57&CS=AWP&SR=57&sample=0

106) sqwonk.org

107) stackndie.com

108) storchconsulting.com

109) summitnewmarket.com

110) tased.thetrenchcoat.com

111) tennesseewx.com

112) thebrokenmind.com

113) thebungalow2002.com" gping="&POS=104&CM=WPU&CE=82&CS=AWP&SR=82&sample=0

114) thefragrancefactory.net

115) theoreticgames.com

116) thetrenchcoat.com

117) thewhitehawk.com

118) tinyhousereader.com

119) tr.thetrenchcoat.com

120) tuoitresoidong.com

121) tylerproject.com

122) tylerprojects.com

123) woodcraftwanderings.org

124) wpcoders.com

125) xhtmlthis.com

126) yefomit.com" gping="&POS=43&CM=WPU&CE=21&CS=AWP&SR=21&sample=0

 

 

now i know, that this server hosts 125 other sites and depending on the specs and configuration the server can be fast or slow.

It also depends what sites there are on. If you have a lot of forums with shoutbox ( wrong configured shoutboxes in general) there will be slow downs at certain times.

 

The server also reveals some info about itself.

Server Type:  Apache/1.3.39 (Unix) mod_fastcgi/2.4.2 mod_gzip/1.3.26.1a mod_auth_passthrough/1.8 mod_log_bytes/1.2 mod_bwlimited/1.4 PHP/4.4.7 FrontPage/5.0.2.2635.SR1.2 mod_ssl/2.8.30 OpenSSL/0.9.7a

I also saw Terbayte has 2 other domains :)

 

If it is a server with a lot of HTML sites you will do better, but in general expect a mix of both.

Another thing to look out for is IF the server runs in SAFE MODE or not.

safe mode is not bad, but will limit you for example in IPB gallery and some other mods. Also skins will need to be imported in a different fashion.

You will have less of these problems with SAFE MODE off.

 

Next, What to look for when looking for a new shared host?

 

When I'm looking for a linux shared-hosting solution for a future non-static website that I intend on developing, there are a couple of points I look out for when browsing through the package-plans' features :

 

1)PHP 5.2.x - PHP4 is on its way out - on 13th July 2007, php.net officially announced the PHP 4 end of life announcement. With PHP 6 on the way, its high time new php-projects are written in PHP 5. Moreover, with the new OOP model (inclined towards Java and C#), frameworks are better off in PHP 5. Also, something known as phar has sprung up. Its on lines with Java's WAR format where you can distribute your application as a single archive file - though this is yet to be fully implemented.

As for specifically PHP 5.2.x - many changes were introduced from ver 5.1.0 to 5.2.0 - there's even a migration documentation from 5.1.0 to 5.2.0 ! One of the major additions are the JSON and ZIP (using zlib). The JSON extension bridges a big gap - you can now create javascript JSON variables directly from php arrays !

 

 

2)MySQL 5.0.x - Stored Procedures, Triggers, Cursors, Views etc which are actually very handy once you get to know to use them. These are available by default in PostgreSQL and MS SQL Server. Four years ago, when my friend was into ASP .NET development and MS SQL Server, he mentioned how stored procedures saved a script-development time. This would be at the cost of using more database resource, but its something we MySQL guys are pretty late into. Another introduction is the maximum length of VARCHAR data-type from 256 to 65,535. Very often I wanted to set the maximum length to 1000 characters and there's no solution to do this in versions 3 and 4 except to make them of TEXT type. The drawback of this was that TEXT fields can't be indexed, which is something I can't settle for. Indexing is important for faster queries even if it requires a whole lot more disk space.

For example, if I had a field named `URL`, I would want it to set it to atleast 1000 characters variable length. Many URLs are bound to be more than 256 characters. And URLs can really be INDEXed or even UNIQUEd.

 

 

3)Apache 2.0.x - Apache 2.0 has a whole lot more to offer than Apache 1.3. But the only thing I'm interested in is the RegExp part of mod_rewrite which offers more pattern syntax characters like ? (extends the meaning of) character.

 

 

4)SSH - command-line shell access is something developers are more comfortable with. Period.

 

 

5)Control Panel - Only a couple of them are common - either CPanel, Plesk, DirectAdmin or an in-house one. I don't have a preference, but Plesk has the option of changing DNS settings.

 

 

6)(Optional) PostgreSQL - Sometimes, PostgreSQL can be better off then MySQL - you normally PostgreSQL available on hosts providing Plesk, as a lot of other features come with an additional Plesk addon (Plesk Expand) and PostgreSQL support is one of them.

 

 

7)(Optional) mod_python, mod_perl - Perl and Python are enabled by default on most hosts via CGI. For developers, developing on linux PCs, this won't be an issue, but those who develop linux based stuff on Windows will have the problem of constantly updating the shebang-line for each time to upload to update the script. This can be a major headache if VIM is not comfortable enough or too slow to edit on the server side. People who code in Perl wouldn't want mod_perl anyway. When it comes to Python, since Google has the Python creator as their employee and since most of their scripts are based on python (obviously), there are some useful scripts provided by Google that are distributed in Python code. One of them is the Sitemap generator.

 

 

8)Support - and of course, impeccable support - something you should test before hand by asking a couple of smart questions and judging them and also reading reviews of the company. This probably the toughest part, but when you're investing in hosting, allow yourself to estimate that half of that investment goes for support while the other half is for features.

 

 

 

in addition i am my own host, so i dont host other websites but my owm, on a dual XEON server 3 Ghz, 4 giga ram 3 HDD, auto backup stream to second server all protected by a hardware firewall. In all cases i own the hardware. :P

[ÑÀRÇÁÇΧT]

I could help ya out on my server, from next month ima be working on hosting with a reseller account. to see if its worth it lol..

[GaVrA]

Hmm ok thnx for respons, but i was acctualy looking for some pretty straight forward answer's... :P Like:

 

Go to www.somethingsomething.com that's pretty good solution for forums. :)

 

I need some reather cheap shared hosting for next several months, in that period i plan to develop my site to a point where i would need some advanced hosting... Also in these several months i plan to collect that money to pay for some good hostng... So i need some host that offers good shared hosting and good dedicated hosting, so i dont have to switch host again(i'v changed host like 4 times in past 12 motnths)...

 

@iris

 

I was acctualy hopping you would tell me that you are using some good dedicated server... :lol: Not that you own the server... hehe...

 

I am close to buy host at dreamhost.com 'couse they have way too many bandwidth(like 5TB), i'v heard some good things from some ppl who are like hmm pro's :P , excelent support, on my first email they responded like 30min after that... :) And also they offer dedicated server's so i wont have to switch again...

[terabyte]

I've heard a lot of bad things about dreamhost :lol:

[TPB]

I use lunarpages.com

 

I like it so far, and it's cheap, good cust. svc.

 

Would be interested in seeing ping results for that one :) haha... I gotta spend about a week studying Iris' post.. there is so much knowledge in her and the force is strong :lol:

[GaVrA]

Yeah, well, i'v heard a lot of good things about them... :) It is reather chep(120 us dollars for 1 year) and they have some good private servers, where you can scale how much CPU and RAM you need. You can start from 150/150(15dollars per month) up to 2300/2300(230dollars per month)

 

http://dreamhostps.com/

 

 

I am about at 95% to buy their's hosting. #2 on my list is lunarpages :lol:

[ÑÀRÇÁÇΧT]

Seems expensive to me my friend, but your choice :lol:

[Iris]

www.worldhoster.org if u want suggestion

[The Outlaw]

I'm using LibraNews.nl for my webhosting.

You will not find any thing on there site about webhhosting bud if you ask them (true support) and

tell them what you need then you will get a good price.

 

the guys there are a usenetprovider bud just ask them and you will see.

 

H.

[ÑÀRÇÁÇΧT]

10 Months bit late there mate :D

[Michael John]

I'm on a semi-annual plan with HostGator, haven't had any issues with them yet, my renewal just came a few weeks ago and although the low Australian dollar is making it expensive for me, I think they are well worth it!

[ÑÀRÇÁÇΧT]

BouncingCube.Com is a very good one I even have a promo code you can use for 10% discount on all packages : Kier101

[frank white]

www.worldhoster.org if u want suggestion

 

is this still good to go?

[Mr.Ah]

I actually have my own server. Dual quad xeon 2.6 with 4 gigs of ram. i currently host approximately 60 sites. and rising daily.

i also run a reseller off the server for personal sue for demos and trials. if ya interested look it up

 

http://web-tech-hosting.com

http://web-tech-hosting.net

 

i also do shoutcast hosting.

[game]

try also rawhosting.org, my server is Quad core (4) 2.5GHz. 8gig ram we got reseller plans , master & alfa master

[.Im#NuMBeR1]

To be honest, if your not bothered about posting for hosting, then Trap17.com is the best. ;)

 

http://www.trap17.com

[Ronald]

Well I'm a year behind and a dollar short. I have two Hosting Plans, both with Byethost. I find them to be good, at least with me.. Support is excellent. Price is fair. I also use them for Domain registrations. I have four of them.

[-DarkGizmo-]

If you still need a host, hostgator is good :)